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AttractionPros brings you into the room with the top leaders, executives, and influencers in the attractions industry, to gain the widest possible perspective of all areas of the industry. Most people are only exposed to the practices of their own organization without seeing how the rest of the industry operates. By following AttractionPros, you will gain the skills and knowledge needed to succeed and learn from the best of the best, whether you are the CEO or just beginning your career.
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Tuesday Dec 03, 2024
Tuesday Dec 03, 2024
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Mark Berlin is the Director of Operations at the USS Midway Museum in San Diego, CA. Mark's career journey began in tourism with Historic Tours of America as a tour guide for Old Town Trolley Tours in Boston. He climbed the ranks, eventually managing operations in San Diego and Washington, DC. His path later led to the museum industry, where he managed audio tours at iconic Smithsonian museums, and served as Guest Services Director at the Natural History Museum in San Diego. Since joining the Midway in 2006, Mark has been integral to its success and transformation. In this interview, Mark talks about unexpected fun, embracing the introverts, and how life is a field trip.
Unexpected Fun
"Retired Navy personnel are a lot of fun, and they love sharing that fun with our guests on board."
Mark explained that many visitors to the USS Midway Museum are surprised to find the experience not only educational but also deeply enjoyable. The ship’s docents, many of whom are retired Navy personnel, bring their unique personalities and stories, injecting humor and enthusiasm into tours. Mark emphasized that creating this atmosphere of enjoyment is deeply rooted in the museum's culture. By balancing respect for the history of the Midway with engaging interactions, the museum staff delivers an unexpectedly fun experience for guests of all ages. This joyful spirit contributes to the Midway’s status as a top-rated attraction in San Diego.
Embracing the Introverts
"I'm still a proud introvert, but I find myself in an extroverted role."
Reflecting on his own path from a quiet tour guide to a leadership role, Mark shared his commitment to supporting introverted team members. During hiring, he values candidates who may initially appear reserved but exhibit potential. He recalled a memorable hire—a quiet young woman determined to overcome her shyness. With support and opportunity, she blossomed into one of the Midway's best team members. Mark encourages introverted staff to find their voice, creating an inclusive culture where every personality type can thrive.
Life is a Field Trip
"I only take jobs where I would have gone on a field trip as a kid."
Mark’s passion for experiential learning and immersive environments guides his work at the Midway. He recalled childhood field trips to historical sites and how these experiences ignited his interest in tourism and museums. Now, he strives to recreate that sense of awe and discovery for visitors. From engaging exhibits to interactive experiences with volunteers, Mark ensures that every guest’s visit to the Midway feels like a memorable field trip—one that educates and inspires in equal measure.
To learn more about the USS Midway Museum, visit midway.org. You can also reach Mark directly at mberlin@midway.org.
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Tuesday Nov 26, 2024
Tuesday Nov 26, 2024
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TJ Christensen is the Founding Partner and CEO of BlueGator, a company dedicated to helping theme parks, zoos, aquariums, museums, and other attractions enhance their operations by leveraging Salesforce as a CRM and data integration platform. TJ’s journey into hospitality began as a Disney College Program participant working in parking at Disney MGM Studio (now Hollywood Studios), where he caught the “hospitality bug.” From there, he advanced through roles in sales, marketing, and guest experience at Disney, followed by a decade-long tenure at accesso, leading their sales operations and helping the company expand globally. BlueGator, co-founded with a former accesso colleague, focuses on bringing advanced data integration solutions to nonprofits and attractions, streamlining their guest and donor engagement processes. In this interview, TJ talks about wrestling with data, connecting the dots, and the four key metrics.
Wrestling with Data
"You have to bring all the data that each one of those systems has, and you have to make sense of it and be able to use it."
TJ discusses the challenge of consolidating data from disconnected systems within attractions and nonprofits, where operations often rely on multiple, independent platforms like ticketing systems, point-of-sale systems, and fundraising tools. This lack of integration leads to "wrestling with data," requiring manual workarounds that are time-consuming and prone to errors. BlueGator’s approach centers on creating a unified platform using Salesforce, eliminating data silos and providing a comprehensive view of guest interactions and operations. By streamlining data, TJ’s team helps operators overcome the “spaghetti and spiderwebs” of traditional data integration, reducing friction and allowing them to better serve guests and meet organizational goals.
Connecting the Dots
"It's not just about the ones and zeros. It's about the impact that experience can have on someone's trajectory in life."
For TJ, effective data integration goes beyond the technology itself—it’s about enhancing guest experiences and making meaningful connections. He emphasizes that whether it’s a visit to a museum, zoo, or aquarium, the interactions guests have can be life-changing, fostering lifelong passions or interests. BlueGator’s work involves linking disparate data streams—like ticketing and donor engagement systems—to present a holistic view of each visitor's journey. This integration allows attractions to personalize interactions, boost guest engagement, and foster deeper emotional connections. TJ draws from his background at Disney and accesso to illustrate how technology can support meaningful guest engagement without losing sight of the human impact.
The Four Key Metrics
"Recency, frequency, duration, and spend—those are the four pillars or key metrics."
TJ introduces the framework of four key metrics—recency, frequency, duration, and spend—as a way to measure and optimize guest engagement. By focusing on how recently a guest visited, how often they return, how long they stay, and how much they spend, operators can build targeted strategies to maximize value and deepen relationships with their visitors. TJ explains that this structured approach allows attractions to understand and anticipate guest behavior, enabling tailored communications and offers that drive repeat visits and greater overall satisfaction. BlueGator applies this framework to create data-driven solutions that help operators achieve their business goals while keeping guests at the center of their mission.
For more information, you can reach TJ via email at tj.christensen@bluegator.com or connect with him on LinkedIn. Learn more about BlueGator at their website, where you can also submit a request for a meeting.
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Tuesday Nov 19, 2024
Tuesday Nov 19, 2024
Katy Enrique is the Director of Marketing and Sales at the City Museum in St. Louis, MO. With a career rooted in the attractions industry, Katy's background includes significant experience at Six Flags, where she worked her way up through guest relations, special events, and public relations before transitioning to her current role at City Museum. Known for its unique blend of art, architecture, and play, the City Museum offers an indescribable experience that has captivated both locals and tourists alike. In this interview, Katy talks about describing the indescribable, seeking uniqueness, and how marketing impacts everything.
Describing the Indescribable
"When we moved here, everybody was like, 'Oh my gosh, your kids are at the perfect age to take them to City Museum.' And I'm like, 'What is that place?' And they were like, 'Nope, it can’t be described, just go.'”
Katy shares the challenge of conveying City Museum’s essence, explaining that the museum isn’t your typical museum. It’s a place where art and adventure collide, and visitors are invited to explore with knee pads and headlamps. Katy highlights that marketing the museum involves tapping into user-generated content and social media, where guests share their unique experiences. This helps potential visitors grasp what the museum offers, even though words and pictures often fall short of encapsulating its true essence.
Seeking Uniqueness
"We started foundationally as an artist-built playground... it's an eclectic blend of many things from the city of St. Louis."
Katy delves into the museum's commitment to uniqueness, not only in its attractions but also in how it engages with both visitors and employees. She notes that everything in the museum is built from interesting or repurposed materials, creating an environment unlike any other. This philosophy extends to their recruitment efforts, where the museum markets itself as a fun and different place to work. Whether it's a unique slide made from reclaimed materials or hosting special adult-only events, City Museum thrives on offering something visitors and employees can't find anywhere else.
Marketing Impacts Everything
"It’s critical that marketing is aligned with operations and events, and that we’re always connecting the dots to make sure things run smoothly."
Katy discusses the broad scope of marketing at City Museum, emphasizing that it goes far beyond traditional advertising. Marketing plays a role in shaping the guest experience, recruiting employees, and even coordinating with the operations team to ensure that events and daily activities run smoothly. Whether it's creating fun and engaging content for social media or collaborating with HR on recruitment campaigns, Katy highlights that marketing is at the core of the museum's success and integral to every department.
For more information about City Museum or to contact Katy Enrique directly, visit citymuseum.org or email her at kenrique@citymuseum.org.
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Tuesday Nov 12, 2024
Tuesday Nov 12, 2024
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IAAPA Expo 2024 will be held at the Orange County Convention Center in Orlando, FL from November 18th to the 22nd. The expo’s trade show floor alone includes nine miles of aisles of exhibitors from every corner of the attractions industry - from ride manufacturers, ticketing software, games, retail, the latest in food and beverage options, and much more. When it comes to education, the expo packs a wide variety of sessions that cover topics from guest and employee experience, safety, security, revenue growth, and again… much more. The events, occurring throughout the days and evenings are excellent networking opportunities that also allow for the enjoyment of area attractions. Whether you’re a first-timer or a seasoned attendee, the expo can be overwhelming, given the sheer number of options for where to go and what to do.
For the last few years, AttractionPros has published a guide with tips and tricks, and this year, we collected submissions, tips and advice from our audience. In this episode, Matt and Josh share a handful of submissions received, as well as their own guidance to have a successful show, based on years of experience attending.
Download the full IAAPA Expo 2024 Thrival Guide here
And if you’ll be at the expo, join us at our AttractionPros Meetup! On Sunday, November 18th, we’ll be hosting an event at Ole Red at Icon Park from 6:00pm to 8:00pm. Drinks and appetizers will be provided, as well as a great opportunity to meet and network with your fellow AttractionPros! Space is limited, so please RSVP in advance.
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Tuesday Nov 05, 2024
Tuesday Nov 05, 2024
Tap into innovation at IAAPA Expo, the biggest industry event of the year. Join us and other AttractionsPros in Orlando, FL, Nov. 18-22 to engage with the global community. Learn from the experts, leave with new ideas, and turn your passion for the industry into new possibilities. Register now to save up to 30%.
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Ricky Spicuzza is the General Manager of Kennywood Park & Sandcastle Waterpark in West Mifflin, PA. Ricky's career journey started as a teenager in Kennywood’s food and beverage department, selling hot sausages and hot dogs. This early role ignited a passion for food that would shape his career. After gaining experience at Idlewild and Sandcastle Waterpark, where he also led a multimillion-dollar rebranding project, Ricky returned to his roots at Kennywood, bringing full circle a lifelong connection to the park. In this interview, Ricky talks about treating every interaction like an interview, keeping history in every decision, and the Potato Patch Fries secret menu.
Treating Every Interaction Like an Interview
"You have to treat every interaction as if it's an interview. No matter what... you're putting your best foot forward, you're selling yourself, you're selling your passion."
Ricky emphasized the importance of always being "on," whether interacting with consultants, park guests, or colleagues from other parks. He learned early in his career that these interactions build reputation and recognition. This mindset helped him grow from an entry-level food service role to becoming a general manager. Persistence and passion were key, as he constantly sought to be visible to leadership while maintaining a genuine love for the park and industry. Ricky’s philosophy underscores the importance of professionalism in even the smallest encounters.
History in Every Decision
“Our history is in every decision we make, no matter what. Every project we do, we're thinking about the history of Kennywood."
At Kennywood, a park steeped in 126 years of history, every decision honors its past. Ricky spoke about how projects, whether a new ride or renovations, are always made with consideration for Kennywood’s legacy. He shared examples like the installation of a modern ride that paid homage to the long-gone Swing Around, and the creation of Jeter’s Pub, a nod to a mascot from the 1970s, which doubles as a museum filled with park memorabilia. This commitment to blending the old with the new ensures Kennywood remains relevant to both nostalgic long-time visitors and younger generations.
The Potato Patch Fries Secret Menu
“If you're feeling a little excited, you go, I just say like a tablespoon, that's all you need, of the gravy... the hidden way to do it."
Ricky shared his personal favorite way to enjoy Kennywood’s famous Potato Patch Fries—seasoned salt, cheese, bacon, and just a tablespoon of gravy. This combination, he explains, adds a subtle richness without overwhelming the dish. Although this unique twist isn’t officially on the menu, Ricky humorously suggests it could be considered part of a "secret menu." His love for food and attention to small details shine through as he shares this insider tip with pride.
To learn more about Kennywood, visit www.kennywood.com. For direct inquiries, Ricky Spicuzza can be reached via LinkedIn. He encourages anyone visiting the park to flag him down if they see him around!
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Tuesday Oct 29, 2024
Tuesday Oct 29, 2024
Tap into innovation at IAAPA Expo, the biggest industry event of the year. Join us and other AttractionsPros in Orlando, FL, Nov. 18-22 to engage with the global community. Learn from the experts, leave with new ideas, and turn your passion for the industry into new possibilities. Register now to save up to 30%.
Megan Hartman is the General Manager of Dutch Wonderland in Lancaster, PA, along with the Cartoon Network Hotel and Old Mill Stream Campground. With a career that began in 2004 at Paramount Kings Island as a lifeguard, Megan's journey has spanned numerous roles, including leadership positions at Great Wolf Lodge and Splish Splash Water Park. Now at Dutch Wonderland, a family-focused amusement park designed for children, Megan has embraced the slower, family-friendly pace of Lancaster while bringing in guests from larger cities like Philadelphia and New York. In this interview, Megan talks about seeing through the lens of a lifeguard, letting your team have the vision, and being comfortable with the uncomfortable.
The Lens of a Lifeguard
"Being a lifeguard is all about being observant. It's looking for the thing that is different or isn’t normal or watching for human behavior."
Megan shares how her early experiences as a lifeguard have shaped her leadership style, particularly in her ability to observe and respond quickly to situations. This heightened awareness translates into her daily work as she walks through the park, noticing details others might miss—whether it's a piece of trash out of place or a guest who might need assistance. Her sharp observational skills, honed through years of lifeguard training, now guide her in managing Dutch Wonderland, ensuring that both guest experience and safety are maintained at high levels.
Letting Your Team Have the Vision
"My purpose here is, what is your vision? And how do we enact that?"
Megan emphasizes the importance of empowering her team to develop and implement their own vision for the park. She recognizes that her role is not to dictate every decision but to support her staff in bringing their ideas to life. By stepping back and allowing her team to take the lead, Megan fosters a sense of ownership and creativity among her employees. This leadership philosophy has helped create a collaborative environment at Dutch Wonderland, where team members feel valued and are encouraged to innovate.
Being Comfortable with the Uncomfortable
"I’m comfortable in the not knowing. If you have people who are passionate and who care, you can combine those visions."
Megan acknowledges that stepping into the unknown is a natural part of leadership. Whether it’s navigating the complexities of managing a multi-faceted property or making decisions with incomplete information, she has learned to embrace discomfort. Her openness to admitting when she doesn’t have all the answers has allowed her to rely on her team's expertise. This mindset has been instrumental in her leadership approach, where creating a supportive space for her staff to learn from mistakes and grow is key to long-term success.
To learn more about Dutch Wonderland, visit www.dutchwonderland.com. Megan can be reached at megan.hartman@palaceentertainment.com, where she welcomes inquiries or further discussion.
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Tuesday Oct 22, 2024
Tuesday Oct 22, 2024
Tap into innovation at IAAPA Expo, the biggest industry event of the year. Join us and other AttractionsPros in Orlando, FL, Nov. 18-22 to engage with the global community. Learn from the experts, leave with new ideas, and turn your passion for the industry into new possibilities. Register now to save up to 30%.
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Bron Launsby is the CEO and Founder of Slick City Action Park and Innovative Heights Management Company. Bron’s journey to founding Slick City started with a background in retail, working in corporate positions for companies like Kohl's and Cracker Barrel, where he developed product lines and strategies to increase sales. In 2011, after being introduced to the trampoline park industry, Bron decided to pivot his career into entrepreneurship, eventually scaling to nine trampoline park locations. His innovative approach led to the creation of Slick City Action Park, a new concept that blends dry slides with attractions for all ages. In this interview, Bron talks about innovation excellence, building a franchise, and how culture is everything.
Innovation Excellence
"Sometimes innovation comes in the form of processes, and sometimes programs, but it’s always about reinvesting in your business."
Bron’s background in retail management laid the foundation for his relentless focus on innovation. He describes how his early career in retail taught him the importance of constantly improving operations, whether by creating new attractions or refining existing processes. The shift to trampoline parks and eventually the launch of Slick City is a testament to this mindset. Bron believes innovation doesn’t always have to be monumental; it can be subtle but impactful, like introducing new attractions or developing membership programs that enhance guest engagement.
At Slick City, this approach has led to the development of dry slide parks, an innovative concept within the attractions industry. What started as an idea during his trampoline park days has now blossomed into a successful and scalable brand with multiple locations. The continual pursuit of improvement, from the attractions offered to the way parks are managed, is what has positioned Bron and his company as leaders in the family entertainment space.
Building a Franchise
"Franchising is awesome, but you’ve got to stay relevant to your franchisees."
Bron’s experience as both a franchisee and franchisor gives him a unique perspective on the franchise model. He explains that staying relevant to franchisees is crucial for success. For Bron, this means keeping operations streamlined and efficient, as well as offering franchisees support through Innovative Heights, his management company. By being involved in every aspect, from location selection to day-to-day operations, Bron ensures that the franchisees have the tools they need to succeed.
His company offers what he calls a "park in a box" model, where franchisees receive everything they need to build a consistent brand. This consistency ensures that each location, whether in a mall or industrial space, reflects the Slick City vision and meets the same high standards. Bron’s approach emphasizes that franchising isn’t just about replicating a successful model; it’s about continuously supporting and innovating to maintain the integrity of the brand across all locations.
Culture is Everything
"Your guest engagement will never be higher than your team member engagement."
For Bron, building a strong company culture is non-negotiable. He stresses that the success of Slick City is rooted in a "we mentality" where the team works together toward unified goals. Bron developed an acronym, "SLICK," which stands for Stand Tall Together, Love Your Community, Innovate Always, Commit to Fun, and Keep the Experience Safe. This culture-driven philosophy extends from senior management down to the newest hires, ensuring that everyone is aligned with the company's mission.
Bron’s belief in the power of culture is evident in the way he manages his team. He highlights that engaged employees lead to higher guest satisfaction, which is crucial in the entertainment industry. Bron’s emphasis on taking care of the team and fostering a collaborative environment has been key to his company's success and rapid growth.
To learn more about Slick City Action Park or get in touch with Bron, you can find him on LinkedIn under Bron Launsby. For information about Slick City, visit slickcity.com, and for franchising opportunities, visit slickcityfranchise.com. Additionally, you can find more about Slick Slide slickslide.com.
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Tuesday Oct 15, 2024
Tuesday Oct 15, 2024
Tap into innovation at IAAPA Expo, the biggest industry event of the year. Join us and other AttractionsPros in Orlando, FL, Nov. 18-22 to engage with the global community. Learn from the experts, leave with new ideas, and turn your passion for the industry into new possibilities. Register now to save up to 30%.
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AttractionPros LIVE! is back at IATP! In September 2024, Matt and Josh held a session at the International Association of Adventure and Trampoline Parks’s annual conference in Hollywood, FL. Participants were asked to anonymously share their biggest challenges in their business, and by selecting topics at random, were then invited to share solutions. From staffing to marketing and guest engagement, this wide-ranging conversation led to significant outcomes. In this episode, Matt and Josh tap into the collective wisdom in the room, where the challenges facing trampoline and adventure parks are transferable to every area of the attractions industry.
Innovative Marketing and Guest Engagement
“You're going to buy new socks all the time anyways... so change your colors every so often, reinvent your sock, and when you do that, send a blast email to everybody and say, 'Hey, do you know we have new socks?'”
The attendees in the session discuss creative ways to refresh attractions without significant costs, such as changing product offerings (like reinventing sock designs) and promoting them to attract repeat visits. They also mention using email blasts to engage customers and using social media to amplify brand awareness.
Collaboration with Communities
"We partner with our PTA in all of our local districts. We offer up our party rooms as spots for them to hold their PTA meetings... It makes us the hangout spot after the Friday night football game."
Participants share success stories on how partnerships with local schools, sports teams, and organizations help generate more traffic, such as offering spirit nights and collaborative fundraisers. Some operators highlight the benefits of inviting schools to use their facilities for PTA meetings or hosting ongoing fundraising events.
Staff Training and Productivity
"We train the staff to always prepare like you are working for 50 or 60 parties... We want to make sure that even in those slower months, we are working like we are packed out."
The conversation dives into challenges of transitioning staff between high and low seasons, with suggestions to keep teams always prepared for peak activity. One operator emphasizes the need for consistent productivity, while another notes the importance of personalizing guest experiences based on the pace of business.
Hiring and Leadership Development
"I always make sure to ask for very specific examples... People like to say, 'I'm good at this,' but until you get them to share those examples, you don’t know if they're really speaking the truth."
The group discusses how to identify leaders during interviews, using group interviews and role-playing as techniques to assess candidates. Emphasis is placed on observing how potential hires interact with both staff and customers outside the formal interview environment.
Safety and Operations
"It's not only the equipment, it's the staff too... If your staff aren't controlling how many jumpers are in that airbag, your airbag is not going to work the way it's supposed to."
Participants stress the importance of maintaining safe equipment and fostering a culture of safety. Regular inspections, staff training on equipment, and creating a safety-first mindset were highlighted as essential to minimizing risks and enhancing guest experience.
We’d like to thank IATP for inviting us to speak and lead this energetic and enlightening session. To learn more about IATP, visit www.indooradventureparks.org.
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Tuesday Oct 08, 2024
Tuesday Oct 08, 2024
Tap into innovation at IAAPA Expo, the biggest industry event of the year. Join us and other AttractionsPros in Orlando, FL, Nov. 18-22 to engage with the global community. Learn from the experts, leave with new ideas, and turn your passion for the industry into new possibilities. Register now to save up to 30%.
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Leadership lessons can come from anywhere. Recently, Josh took an online course unrelated to the attractions industry - or business leadership at all - yet there were multiple lightbulbs that went off related to leading a team, and specifically when it comes to onboarding and training new-hires. Lessons ranged from maintaining a consistent leadership approach to reframing training sessions to foster a learning environment for team members, as well as allowing team members to make mistakes in low-stakes settings. In this episode, Matt and Josh discuss nine leadership lessons from an unlikely source.
- Is It Training or Learning?
"Is it the team member going through training or is it the team member who is now learning how to do this skill?"
The distinction between training and learning is critical. Training often refers to what the instructor does, while learning is focused on the participant. By reframing the experience as learning, leaders can shift their perspective to better support the growth and understanding of the individual. The emphasis should be on how the trainee absorbs and applies the information, not just on delivering the content.
- The Three C's of Leadership: Commitment, Consistency, and Keeping It Cool
“Keep it cool... those learning moments happen when the team member is not demonstrating immediate proficiency."
Effective leadership, especially in training, requires commitment, consistency, and a calm demeanor. Leaders need to stay focused on the process without getting distracted by other responsibilities. Consistency ensures that each new team member receives the same level of instruction. Finally, keeping cool in the face of setbacks or slow progress is essential for maintaining a positive learning environment and encouraging growth.
- Incentives and Rewards Don’t Reinforce the Behavior
"The team member starts doing it for the incentive, not because it’s their job."
Relying on external rewards like incentives may undermine intrinsic motivation. When employees perform tasks just for rewards, they miss out on internalizing the desired behavior. It's better to introduce incentives as surprises for achieving results, rather than making them the primary goal. This approach ensures that team members are motivated to perform well because of their own drive, not just for rewards.
- If Something is Second Nature to You, Reset Your Frame of Reference
"I completely deconstructed the process... and determined what needs to be done to do this."
Leaders who are experts in a task may find it difficult to teach it to others because they forget what it’s like to learn it for the first time. By breaking the task down into smaller, more understandable components, they can help trainees understand it better. This approach encourages empathy in leadership, ensuring that new employees are given the tools they need to truly master their roles, even when the leader has long mastered the task.
- Stay Neutral with Positive Performance
"Be neutral with it... you let them know how great of a job that is without adding too much pressure."
Celebrating positive performance can unintentionally put pressure on team members to maintain that high level of work, which may lead to anxiety or burnout. Instead of overly exuberant praise, leaders should adopt a more neutral tone, acknowledging good work without making it overwhelming. This prevents the individual from feeling pressured to consistently outperform and allows for steady, sustainable improvement.
- Stay Neutral with Negative Performance
"Redirect instead of punish... taking the emotion out of it and making it very straightforward."
Similarly, leaders should handle negative performance without punishing employees emotionally. Constructive feedback that is calm and clear helps to redirect behaviors without creating a negative atmosphere. By maintaining neutrality, the leader ensures that team members are focused on correcting their mistakes and improving rather than fearing harsh consequences.
- Let Them Make Mistakes in Low-Stakes Environments
"I will let you lead your tour into a broom closet... I’m going to let you make those mistakes."
Allowing team members to make small mistakes in a controlled, low-stakes environment provides them with valuable learning experiences. In the example of a VIP tour guide training, the trainer allowed small errors but was ready to step in before major problems occurred. This method encourages hands-on learning and helps build confidence, as employees learn from their mistakes without facing significant repercussions.
- The Best Punishment for Poor Performance is the Natural Consequence of Their Actions
"Talk about how it impacts their paycheck... how does it impact that individual directly."
Rather than relying on formal disciplinary actions, natural consequences are often the best way for team members to understand the impact of their poor performance. For example, consistently arriving late may lead to lost wages, which hits closer to home than formal reprimands. This approach emphasizes accountability and helps employees see how their actions directly affect their work and outcomes.
- Training and Learning is Ongoing
"Training and learning is ongoing... it is not one-and-done."
Learning is a continuous process, not something that is completed in a single session. Even after initial training, team members should be encouraged to refine their skills and improve over time. Leaders need to reinforce positive behaviors while continuing to coach through challenges, creating an environment of ongoing growth rather than a finish line mentality in learning.
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Tuesday Oct 01, 2024
Tuesday Oct 01, 2024
Tap into innovation at IAAPA Expo, the biggest industry event of the year. Join us and other AttractionsPros in Orlando, FL, Nov. 18-22 to engage with the global community. Learn from the experts, leave with new ideas, and turn your passion for the industry into new possibilities. Register now to save up to 30%.
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Val Syganevich is the President and Co-Founder of Freckled Sky, a production company specializing in themed entertainment and live events. With a diverse background ranging from programming to graphic design and eventually comedy, Val’s career took a turn when he decided to pursue entertainment more seriously. After moving from Ukraine to the United States with his family, Freckled Sky was born out of a passion for creating immersive experiences that merge physical and digital worlds. In this interview, Val talks about mixed-reality storytelling, competing with the digital world, and the power of “what-if.”
Mixed-Reality Storytelling
“We are in live experiences, attractions, whatever, in our real world. But we also had our own unique creative expertise, how we merge physical and digital worlds, how we tell stories by using technologies but not showing technologies.”
Val discusses how Freckled Sky differentiates itself by focusing on mixed-reality storytelling. This approach blends physical and digital elements to create immersive experiences without relying on visible technology like screens or VR headsets. Val emphasizes the importance of storytelling in their productions, ensuring that the audience is fully engaged without the distraction of obvious technological elements. By integrating digital aspects seamlessly into the physical environment, Freckled Sky creates a unique experience that goes beyond traditional entertainment.
Competing with the Digital World
“The only way how we compete with digital world, to use all the power of digital world and make something more than that in our real-life experiences.”
Val touches on the challenge of competing with the pervasive digital world. He recognizes that the younger generation is deeply entrenched in digital experiences, yet he believes that live, in-person events still hold unparalleled value. Freckled Sky aims to leverage digital tools not to replicate screen-based experiences but to enhance real-world interactions. By doing so, they provide audiences with something that purely digital experiences cannot—an authentic, tangible connection in a shared physical space.
The Power of “What-If”
“First of all, we are dreamers, and that's actually what moves us. We haven't done our best show yet, our best project yet.”
Val reflects on the importance of dreaming and the question of "what if" as a driving force behind Freckled Sky’s innovations. He believes that there are no bad ideas, only bad executions, and that the key to success lies in the "how" rather than the "what." This mindset allows his team to constantly push the boundaries of what’s possible in live entertainment. Whether developing new attractions or refining existing concepts, the spirit of exploration and the willingness to dream big keep Freckled Sky at the forefront of the industry.
To learn more about Val and Freckled Sky, visit their website at freckledsky.com.
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